Bodhisattva (excerpt from - Listening-I email list) Good, now you are looking into another route, perhaps one that does not presuppose escape from or evasion of suffering -- in clearly observing the nature of how and why we suffer, there is understanding that isn't arrived at via logic. In this understanding, there is no escape or evasion per se, but rather a different perception of suffering, a transformation -- a profound change not in the fact of suffering, but in the perceptual position or role of the "I" that suffers. It is in such a consciousness, where "I" and other forms of thought do not play their typically occluding/distorting role, that one encounters the indescribable, and perhaps resorts to the poetic to evoke or point toward it. I would propose that this evocation, this pointing, is bodhisattva.